April 17, 2023
my ideal weight, if i have 1,64 meters
I researched various sources, including Reddit discussions and websites with BMI calculators and weight-related information. There was no clear consensus on an "ideal weight" for someone who is 1.64 meters tall, as numerous factors like body composition, bone structure, and body fat percentage can significantly impact what is considered healthy or ideal for an individual. The general agreement is that BMI can be a helpful starting point but has limitations in assessing an individual's ideal weight. Given the research, there is still some uncertainty regarding a specific ideal weight for someone with a height of 1.64 meters.
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BMI and Ideal Weight
"BMI isn't a good metric to use in the first place, it's just a ratio of your height to your weight. So when you say 'I don't think there's an ideal weight' you're basically asking the same thing when looking for an 'ideal BMI'. That being said, body fat percentage is a much better metric. But even still there's no one 'perfect' percentage for everyone. Just try and keep it low."
"BMI is a measure of height/weight ratio, and is a popular metric used in the medical community because it's easy to calculate, and people with a high BMI ( high being over 30) have a dramatically increased risk of developing certain diseases."
Symmetric Strength Calculator
Body Fat Percentage and Waist-Height Ratio
"BMI isn't a good metric to use in the first place, it's just a ratio of your height to your weight. So when you say 'I don't think there's an ideal weight' you're basically asking the same thing when looking for an 'ideal BMI'. That being said, body fat percentage is a much better metric. But even still there's no one 'perfect' percentage for everyone. Just try and keep it low."
"Generally you would want to use waist height ratio for this. If it is under .5 you have a big drop off in all cause mortality."
"BMI is a measure of height/weight ratio, and is a popular metric used in the medical community because it's easy to calculate, and people with a high BMI ( high being over 30) have a dramatically increased risk of developing certain diseases."
BMI Calculators and Ranges
Conclusion
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Research
Source: "Figuring out optimum body weight and composition." (from reddit, r/bodyweightfitness)
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A reddit user suggests using the calculator available at symmetricstrength.com/calculator/ideal_bodyweight to get an idea of body weight range.
- According to the calculator, for an average man at a height of 1.64 meters with 8-12% body fat, the maximum body weight can be 84.4 kilograms. However, this is for men with 5.5% body fat or less.
- The average weight of elite bodybuilders at a height of 1.83 meters is 302 pounds, which is around 137 kilograms.
- Another user suggests that for bodyweight fitness, it’s more important to stay lean than to worry about overall weight, and shares that taller guys like Tom Merrick, Dominik Sky, and Daniel FitnessFAQs, who do advanced BW elements, are around 190-200ish.
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To get an idea of the ideal weight range, the emphasis should be on being as lean as possible with only as much muscle as necessary for performing the exercises wanted.
- For example, someone who is 6ft tall and weighs 200lbs with 10% body fat and 170lbs with 10% body fat could both be able to do planches and levers, albeit the heavier person might take longer.
- Another user suggests looking at collegiate gymnasts and elite climbers, who are tall and slender with skinny legs.
- The ideal weight range for a person with a height of 1.64 meters and not worried about overall weight might be around 72.6 to 74.8 kilograms (160-165 pounds), based on the calculator mentioned. However, this recommendation is not for a person with 8-12% body fat as in the original query, and it’s unknown whether the range is useful for BW exercises like the lever and planche.
Source: "Is there an optimal BMI for optimal health?" (from reddit, r/Fitness)
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BMI is a population indicator that is used in ways it’s not meant to be.
- There is no single ‘optimal’ point of health.
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Muscular guys with low bodyfat would certainly be closer to “prime health” if they weighed less though.
- They would also have a longer lifespan and reduce their risk for cardiovascular disease and cancer.
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Generally you would want to use waist height ratio for this.
- If it is under .5 you have a big drop off in all cause mortality.
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BMI is not a good indicator of optimal health.
- It doesn’t take into consideration any other factors within your lifestyle.
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Usually having a waist circumference of your 0.51x your height or less. 0.48x for women. It’s probably the most robust method you can do at home, to see if you are statistically outside of the risk zone for lifestyle illnesses.
- There is also the US Navy bodyfat measurement method, it uses waist circumference, height and neck thickness which is perhaps the best available analog method to measure bodyfat.
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Source: "How Much Does Muscle Matter In Calculating BMI?" (from reddit, r/Fitness)
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BMI formula is weight/height^2.
- Does not account for %bf or LMM and is a population measure.
- Useful for most people.
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Muscle mass is not relevant to BMI calculations.
- If a person is overweight, he or she will have a high BMI.
- Muscle adds to weight.
- Enough lean muscle and BMI becomes inaccurate.
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Start tracking your body fat percentage.
- An estimate can be done through measuring with a tape or calipers.
- Anything under 20% is relatively healthy, though you’d look better as you approach 10%.
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BMI is a measure of height/weight ratio and is easy to calculate.
- It cannot calculate muscle mass or body fat.
- BMI is a quick “at a glance” metric but not useful alone.
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Body fat % is a much better metric.
- Average male should be at 15-20% body fat to be healthy, 10-15% to be considered “fit,” and under 10% is very athletic.
- BMI does not consider muscle mass.
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To negate negative health effects associated with a higher BMI, stay under 25% body fat.
- The overweight range is more of a warning range.
- BMI applies the terms overweight and obese to people way sooner than we would in normal everyday life.
Source: "The ultimate weight loss calculator!" (from reddit, r/loseit)
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The webpage is about a weight loss calculator created by an amateur programmer.
- It can determine current BMR, predicted weight loss, and more.
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The webpage has some comments offering feedback on the calculator’s features and usability.
- One user mentioned that the ideal weight given by the calculator is based on a BMI of 22, which is not very accurate.
- Another user suggested that the calculator should ask for desired weight loss or desired BMI to avoid incompatible values.
- A user also recommended adding additional information about the different levels of activity.
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The webpage contains a comment from a user who tried the metric version of the calculator, but encountered errors.
- Another user later reported that it was working fine again.
- None of the comments contain a direct answer to the user’s query about their ideal weight based on their height.
Source: "Ideal weight chart for men and women" (from reddit, r/coolguides)
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Comments on the Reddit post about an “Ideal weight chart for men and women”:
- Some commenters question the accuracy of BMI as an indicator of ideal weight and suggest body fat percentage as a more accurate measure.
- Some commenters express confusion or disbelief at the recommended ideal weight for their height.
- Some commenters express a desire to gain or lose weight to reach their ideal weight.
- One commenter suggests including height in centimeters on the chart.
- One commenter asks for a conversion of height to feet and inches.
- Several commenters make jokes or sarcastic comments about the chart or their own weight.
- None of the comments on the Reddit post provide a clear answer about ideal weight for a person who is 1.64 meters tall.
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Source: "Healthy weight 164 cm woman - BMI Calc" (from web, www.bmicalc.co)
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Ideal Weight Calculator in Metric System based on BMI
- It applies for people of more than 16 years old men or women.
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Other outdated formulas are mentioned:
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Devine (1974)
- Man: IBW = 50 + 2.3(h - 60)
- Woman: IBW = 45.5 + 2.3(h - 60)
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Lorentz (1929)
- For men: IBW = (h − 100) − ((h − 150)/4)
- For women: IBW = (h − 100) − ((h − 150)/2)
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Lorentz (accounting for age)
- IBW = 50 + (h - 150)/4 + (a - 20)/4
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Peck’s (1974)
- Man (18 more than years old): IBW = -130.736 + (4.064 * h)
- Woman (18 more than 18 years old): IBW = -111.621 + (3.636 * h)
- Boy (18 years old or less): IBW = -59.6035 + (5.2878 h) - (0.123939 h2) + (0.00128936 * h3)
- Girl (18 years old or less): IBW = -77.55796 + (6.93728 h) - (0.171703 h2) + (0.001726 * h3)
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Devine (1974)
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How to use the Ideal Weight Calculator
- Enter details in calculator and click ‘Calculate Your Ideal Weight’.
- Don’t use this tool for children. Discuss with your nutritionist or medical adviser for personalized advice.
- BMI is just one of many indicators of body fatness.
- Sample Ideal Body Weight Calculations in Metric System (no relevance to the query)
Source: "I am 1.64 m Tall and I weigh 60 Kg is that norm..." (from web, coolconversion.com)
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Webpage:
- Contains a BMI calculator tool for metric system
- BMI is a rapid way to discover if you are overweight, obese, underweight or normal
- BMI is calculated as weight divided by height squared (BMI = weight(kg) / (height(m))2)
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BMI ranges for people age 18 and over:
- Severely underweight: BMI below 16.0 Kg/m2
- Underweight: BMI = 16.0 to 18.5 Kg/m2
- Normal weight: BMI = 18.5 to 24.9 Kg/m2
- Overweight: BMI = 25 to 29.9 Kg/m2
- Obese: BMI of 30 or greater Kg/m2
- Excess body fat is correlated with future risk of obesity-related illness
- BMI does not provide actual information on body composition and may not be the most appropriate indicator to determine health status for certain groups of people
- Athletes with dense bones and well-developed muscles or people with large body frames may be obese by BMI standards but have little body fat
- Inactive people may seem to have acceptable weight but have too much body fat
- A petite gymnast may be considered underweight but not unhealthy
- BMI, when used for children and adolescents who are still growing, pregnant women, people with large body frames, or petite and highly muscular individuals, should be interpreted cautiously
- The tool does not provide medical advice and should not be used to make important decisions about health
Source: "Ideal weight/height ratios on this super old sc..." (from reddit, r/mildlyinteresting)
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Ideal weight/height ratios chart found on a Reddit post
- URL: https://i.redd.it/yg8lpz3xgbw91.jpg
- Reddit post from user 5 months ago with 8459 points
- 6ft male should weigh between 150-180lbs
- Metric conversion: 2.2lbs to a Kg; 2.54cm to an Inch
- BMI charts are relatively accurate for the vast majority of the population
- BMI is not useful for athletic bodies, nor for non-caucasians
- Ideal weight is dependent on bone structure, muscle mass, and body morphology
- Weight is not always the best measure of health
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Muscle mass is more dense than fat and can impact weight
- One can put on muscle without eating in a caloric surplus
- Cardio and strength training have positive health outcomes
- Being “buff” is not ideal for your body; balance is key
Source: "not sure how to determine my ideal weight" (from reddit, r/Myfitnesspal)
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The webpage contains information about determining ideal weight.
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There is no ideal or general weight for a specific height.
- One person can be heavy and broad built, and another with the same height can be skinny.
- Obviously, they’ll have somewhat different “ideal” weight.
- The ideal weight is within the normal BMI range that you can easily maintain.
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According to BMI:
- You aren’t going to hurt yourself as low as 144 but 175 seems like a decent goal.
- You have to be careful losing more than 2 lbs per week.
- It might be worth having a slightly easier goal, like 188, and see if you want to keep going after that.
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The best way to determine the ideal weight as an individual is to focus on your body fat percentage after reaching a healthy weight.
- It would help if you worked with a sports physician to discuss your goals and decide on what a healthy body fat percentage range looks like for you.
- Some people put on weight in the colder months and get lighter in the warmer months.
- When most people step on the scale at a doctor’s office, they are wearing clothes that throw off the numbers.
- They give you a range in BMI because they have no idea how much lean mass you’re carrying around when they put together the BMI charts.
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There is no ideal or general weight for a specific height.
Source: "Calculator that shows your ideal weight(s) for ..." (from reddit, r/Fitness)
- Symmetric Strength has an overview of how big you could get at different percentages of body fat based on your gender and height.
- The ideal weight depends on factors like gender and body fat percentage among other factors.
- One user says to aim for a body fat percentage of 15% and lose 4.5 lbs of fat.
- Another user suggests factoring in bone structure to know the ideal weight.
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A third user advises researching FFMI and aiming for 21 to work your way back to what weight and what body fat percentage you’d need to be to reach that.
- FFMI doesn’t take into account bone structure.
- There is no clear formula to calculate an ideal weight.
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