March 29, 2023
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I researched various sources, including Reddit discussion threads, websites, and official documents to gather information on both PlanSwift and OST, as well as the General Plan Ost from World War II. There was a fair amount of consensus among the sources, particularly in relation to the differences between PlanSwift and OST, and the failure of the General Plan Ost. However, the sources varied in their depth of discussion and focus on specific aspects of each topic. The research process involved analyzing sources that were closely related to the original query, but the level of uncertainty depends on the specific aspect being discussed [1][2][3][5][6][7][8][9][10].
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PlanSwift vs OST
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Source: "What combination of takeoff, estimating, and jo..." (from reddit, r/estimators)
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OST and Excel
- OST has a very “old system” look
- OST exports basic and not esthetically pleasing
- OST can be set up to pull all the quantities from the take off import
- Can add to assemblies to get more detail and breakdown
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Bluebeam/Planswift, HeavyBid, HeavyJob
- Can assign different types of cabling to the take off counts
- Can break out floors and areas based on what closet the cable will be running to
- Can export data from Bluebeam into custom excel sheet
- Can play around with the types of columns it exports
- Can create custom columns for values Bluebeam doesn’t have built in
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Plan Swift
- Best 2D takeoff available
- Has a fine overlay feature that lets you quickly adjust the takeoff for changes
- Don’t know how to keep a revision history that tracks the changes
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Stack Takeoff software
- Cloud based and can use any computer
- Can add to the assemblies to get more detail and breakdown
- Exporting is basic and not esthetically pleasing
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Sigma Estimates
- Has everything one needs already - material costs, labor rates, production rates, assemblies, markup and OH, reports, templates, etc.
- Unlimited number of cost libraries, with assemblies and/or unit prices
- Can write scripted assemblies
- Can start pre-loaded or build an estimate any way one wants to from scratch
- Can restructure an estimate with drag and drop
- Can delete zero quantities
- Can use constants as place holders for costs, production rate, quantities, etc.
- Can integrate with Revit, Autodesk, Planswift, Procore, an open API, and even a SD to DD to CD app
- 23 canned reports and each can be customized, or can create own
- Can export to excel at the click of a button, or can create an excel template and fill it from estimate at the click of a button
- Can copy and paste detailed estimate from sub or supplier in excel
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Primavera, Timberline, PDF Expert
- Primavera and Timberline used to be beta tested when they went to windows
- PDF Expert used for take offs and measurements
- Can assign
Source: "Which estimating software is best suited for us?" (from reddit, r/estimators)
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Bluebeam and Excel
- Can do quick measures and takeoffs with Bluebeam
- Excel has templates and macros that can do more than may be needed
- Can export quantities to Excel to prepare estimates
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OST Takeoff and Excel
- OST Quickbids program combo can convert the takeoff into costcodes in quickbids in real time
- Can preset the cost codes attached to each takeoff condition
- Can apply Cost codes on quick bid to compute insulation, framing, drywall, and finishing all in one instant
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Planswift
- Dedicated takeoff software
- Can build a database of items and put labor and material pricing to them
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Quoter XR and Quoter Plan
- Can quickly quote exterior siding to final coat of paint inside
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On Screen Takeoff and Excel
- OST is gold standard for takeoffs
- Excel is cheapest solution for pricing
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Building own using no code tool
- Handle everything from material and labor databases, to project management and scheduling
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B2W
- Used mostly for unit rate contracts and have built material database
Source: "PlanSwift Vs On-Screen Takeoff (OST) : In-Depth..." (from web, www.slintel.com)
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PlanSwift and On-Screen Takeoff (OST) compete in the Construction Management market
- PlanSwift has 879 customers in 33 countries
- On-Screen Takeoff (OST) has 693 customers in 15 countries
- PlanSwift has a 4.09% market share in comparison to On-Screen Takeoff (OST)’s 3.23%
- PlanSwift stands at 4th place by ranking, while On-Screen Takeoff (OST) is at the 5th place
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PlanSwift has more customers in United States, Canada and Australia
- On-Screen Takeoff (OST) has more customers in United States, Canada and United Kingdom
Source: "What estimating software do people like best?" (from reddit, r/estimators)
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OST is better for take offs
- OST is easy to make changes, look at the reports, etc
- Bluebeam is better for reading, mark ups and etc
- OST is much better for take offs IMO
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Bluebeam
- Bluebeam is better for reading, mark ups and etc
- Bluebeam is good also
- Bluebeam is great that it is vectored so that you can zoom in a bunch
- Bluebeam seems terrible for viewing in my opinion
- Bluebeam is not responsive enough
- Bluebeam is nice since it does not take long to be skilled at
- One complaint I have with Bluebeam is that when you later mark ups it doesn’t sum all the values and you have to use calculator
- Stop by /r/revu for Bluebeam sum values
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Planswift
- Planswift is real easy to use
- Try to get a student account for any software all companies have discounts
- Planswift and others and didnt feel need to make switch
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ProEst
- We use ProEst and overall I like it
- They are moving to a web based program and it’s garbage though, sticking with the desktop version
- What is the Cost of Proest. Dont see anything on there site?
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ConEst Intellibid
- Specifically for electrical estimation and it works very well
- There is also add-ons for it that do takeoffs as well
- Nice little suite of software
Source: "Biggest difference between planswift and OST? :..." (from web, www.reddit.com)
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Biggest difference between planswift and OST?
- OST is recommended by the lady because it is quite a bit cheaper (roughly $1200).
- There is a deal with OST until the end of the month and it’s roughly $400 cheaper.
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Who has experience with both?
- The lady hasn’t learned planswift that much yet.
- The question is aimed towards people who have experience with both planswift and OST.
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Source: "10 Facts About Nazi Germany's Generalplan Ost" (from web, borgenproject.org)
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Generalplan Ost
- Nazi plan for the resettlement of Eastern Europe with German citizens after their victory in World War II
- Territories they were prepared to take over and occupy were Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Belarus and parts of Russia and Ukraine
- People from these territories were considered racially inferior and required extermination in order to make room for the Aryan Germans
- To exterminate the unwanted people in Eastern Europe, Generalplan Ost called for mass starvation or moving those they wanted to get rid of farther east
- Nazi policy in relation to the Generalplan Ost stated: “many tens of millions of people in this territory will become superfluous and will have to die or migrate to Siberia”
- Heinrich Himmler was in charge of coordinating Generalplan Ost
- The plan called for the extermination or deportation of 31 million people in Eastern Europe
- How people were to be “removed” according to Generalplan Ost was based on a racial hierarchy crafted by the Nazis
- Special German einzatsgruppen (“task forces”) led operations to kill Eastern Europeans from the end of 1941 to the end of 1942
- Hitler argued that he wanted to acquire Eastern Europe for the resettlement of Germans to the territory in order to give Germans “Lebensraum” (living space)
- Part of Hitler’s inspiration for Generalplan Ost and Lebensraum came from the United States’ westward expansion
- Hitler believed Germany’s “manifest destiny” lay in the east
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Nazi genocide of Eastern Europeans
- Over 300,000 civilians in Belarus, Ukraine and the Baltic states alone were killed
- Jews were to be “totally removed,” meaning killed
- The rest of the people in Eastern Europe were to be enslaved, “Germanized” or killed
Source: "Complete translation of the Generalplan Ost" (from reddit, r/ShitWehraboosSay)
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The general plan “Ost”
- It was a plan created by the Reichsführer of the SS troops
- It aimed to Germanize territories in the East
- It proposed to resettle 31 million people of non-German origin
- The plan proposed to settle 4550 thousand Germans within 30 years
- It did not take into account the desire of the state commissioner to strengthen the German race
- The plan also proposed to resettle Poles to Western Siberia
- It suggested that Poles should be resettled in South America
- It proposed that the overwhelming majority of racially undesirable Poles should be resettled in the East
Source: "The success of the general plan "Ost"?" (from reddit, r/TNOmod)
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General Plan Ost was a failure
- It did not create a successful Germanization of Eastern Europe
- It caused massive harm to native peoples and cultures
- It was a money sink
- It did not succeed in wiping out native populations
- It did not succeed in exterminating Jews
- It caused a demographic impact of around 50 million people
- It made Eastern Europe a dangerous powder keg
- It changed the demographics of Eastern Europe dramatically
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Herbert Backe’s Hunger Plan
- It was an essential first step in the General Plan Ost
- It was a plan to secure a food supply for Germany
- It was supported by all German political institutions
- It would have caused 20 to 30 million deaths from starvation
- It would have caused a huge demographic displacement
- It would have led to German settlers being spread across the East
- It would have used slave labour to build roads to the settlements
- It failed due to Germany’s isolation from world markets
Source: "Biggest difference between planswift and OST?" (from reddit, r/estimators)
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Planswift is cheaper than OST
- Roughly $1200 cheaper
- Doing a deal with OST until the end of the month which is roughly $400 cheaper
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OST is simpler to use
- Slice takeoff quantities however you want
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Planswift is more customizable
- 10 fold any other takeoff software
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Planswift has more features
- Ability to switch to other tabs while taking off
- Auto count tool
- Zone feature for multi storey buildings
- Excel integration for BOQs
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