June 11, 2023
Michael Jackson had a relationship with his former nanny, Grace Rwaramba
I reviewed several sources related to the original query about Michael Jackson's relationship with his former nanny, Grace Rwaramba. The sources included Reddit threads discussing various aspects of Michael Jackson's life and relationships, as well as a news article from DNA India that directly addressed the query. There was some consensus among the sources, but the information provided was mostly from unnamed sources or personal accounts, leading to a degree of uncertainty in the conclusions drawn.
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Michael Jackson and Grace Rwaramba's Relationship
"Michael Jackson was secretly romancing his children's nanny Grace Rwaramba, his personal photographer has revealed."
"Jackson fell in love with Grace, 42 after she became the nanny of his children in 1999 following his divorce from Debbie Rowe."
"She acted like a normal mother to Prince Michael, 12, Paris Katherine, 11 and six-year-old Prince Michael II behind closed doors, claims Barkley."
Other Discussions of Michael Jackson's Relationships
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"MEGATHREAD: WORKPLACE ROMANCES"
- The webpage is a megathread post in r/RomanceBooks about workplace romance books.
- The subreddit is a platform for people to share and talk about their favorite romance novels and authors.
- The megathread is based on the workplace romance trope which is a subtrope of forced proximity where the characters spend time together due to work. It includes romances between coworkers, boss/assistant, rivals, clients/professionals, professors/students, etc. It also includes different settings such as superyacht crew, restaurant, office, astronauts, etc.
- The megathread has a specific format where users can post their recommended books by dropping a comment. They should include the subgenre, pairing, job, and the setting of the story. They are also asked to explain how the book fits the workplace romance trope and why they like it. They can also include other tropes, character archetypes, character growth, world-building, external conflict, steam level, etc.
- Books are recommended by users of the subreddit and have different combinations of tropes, subgenres, and steam levels.
- Recommended books include The Hating Game by Sally Thorne (25 karma), Doukakis’s Apprentice by Sarah Morgan, Most Eligible Billionaire by Annika Martin, The Billionaire’s Wake-Up Call Girl by Annika Martin, Whiteout by Adriana Anders (1 karma), Maybe Yours by Claire Raye, The Opposite of You by Rachel Higginson, Heated Rivalry by Rachel Reid, and Legends & Lattes by Travis Baldree. Each recommendation includes a brief explanation of the plot and the relevant workplace romance trope, pairing, subgenre, steam level, etc. Users can also express their agreement and add their thoughts on the recommended books by replying to the comment.
- Users rate books based on their tropes, characters, plot, steam level, and overall enjoyment.
- The post also includes a link to all megathreads and encourages readers to share their favorite books that fit the relevant tropes and add them to the list.
- The post also announces the next week’s theme which is hockey romances.
- Overall, the webpage is a helpful resource for people searching for books that fit the workplace romance trope. It includes a variety of subgenres, pairings, and steam levels that cater to different preferences. The comment section provides additional insights and opinions from other readers.
"Tropetastic Tuesday: Workplace Romance"
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"Employers can’t forbid romance in the workplace - The Guardian"
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"Love At Work: Is It Ever OK To Date A Co-Worker? : Life Kit : NPR"
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"Is mandatory disclosure of romantic relationships with coworkers really a thing in the US and if so why?"
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"Why is it frowned upon to date coworkers, when as an adult you spend most of your time at work?"
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"Ned did not have a “Consensual workplace relationship”"
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"Romance in the workplace: Risks and solutions | Legal Blog"
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"Workplace Romance 2.0: Developing a Communication Ethics Model to ..."
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"Is there a power imbalance in your relationship?"
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"Did Michael Jackson Support LGBT?"
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"What is the public opinion of MJ now?"
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"Just how popular was Michael Jackson at his peak during Thriller?"
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"What do y’all think Michael Jackson’s political views were?"
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"What were people’s reaction when they first saw BAD era Michael Jackson?"
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"Excerpt about MJ from "An Agoraphobic's Guide to Hollywood""
Relevant: True Importance: 2 Notes:
- This is a Reddit thread discussing an excerpt from the book An Agoraphobic’s Guide to Hollywood: How Michael Jackson Got Me Out of the House by Darlene Cravietto.
- The book is written by a screenwriter named Darlene who spoke with Michael Jackson at his penthouse in 1990.
- Darlene describes an interaction between Michael Jackson and a boy named Andrew that took place during her visit. Andrew must have been around nine or ten years old at the time.
- Michael and Andrew were sitting on the couch together, wearing black fedoras.
- Andrew was eating pizza and drinking soda while Michael was laughing and pouring him more soda.
- Michael introduced Andrew to Darlene, stating that Andrew’s mother was a friend of his from New Zealand.
- Darlene observes that Michael appeared entirely comfortable with Andrew on his couch, and lovingly wrapping a blanket around both of them midway through the meeting.
- Darlene had a feeling that the situation was wrong and could not comprehend why Andrew, who appeared to be sleeping over, wouldn’t be with his mother.
- The interaction was not exactly what Darlene had planned for her meeting, and the entire situation made her feel uncomfortable and constrained.
- She noticed that Michael cuddled with Andrew the way she does with her own children, and his moves were like those of a mother: comforting and tender.
- Darlene admits to having never thought about Michael in terms of gender but observing him in this intimate moment with Andrew, she sees him in a more “motherly” light.
- Darlene felt that Michael’s behavior towards Andrew did not seem entirely right, despite not understanding the full extent of Michael’s relationship with the boy.
- Michael carried Andrew to his bedroom after he fell asleep on the couch midway through Darlene’s reading.
- In the comments, some Reddit users pointed out that this is yet another boy within Michael’s age interest who was sleeping over at Neverland.
- There was also a brief conversation in the comments regarding studies on pedophilia and male victims.
- All in all, the thread doesn’t offer much to directly answer your query regarding Michael’s alleged involvement with his former nanny Grace Rwaramba.
"Why did MJ like Roosevelt?"
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"https://www.dnaindia.com/entertainment/report-was-michael-jackson-dating-his-children-s-nanny-1271640"
- Michael Jackson was secretly dating his children’s nanny, Grace Rwaramba, according to his personal photographer, Ian Barkley, and Jackson’s bodyguards.
- Barkley said that Grace loved Michael and he loved her, and that it was an open secret among staff.
- Jackson fell in love with Grace after she became the nanny of his children in 1999 following his divorce from Debbie Rowe. The romance was kept out of the public domain, but it was well-known among staff.
- Jackson’s children called Grace “mom”, and behind closed doors, she acted like a normal mother to them.
- Matt Fiddes, Jackson’s former head of security, claimed that the King of Pop had a secret lover, but he refused to reveal her name. Fiddes said that the family was aware that there was someone special in his life who he loved and adored and had his ups and downs with, and that for some time, she had been present in his life.
- Another one of Jackson’s bodyguards confirmed that the secret woman was Grace Rwaramba. He said that they were more like a married couple than employer and employee.
- Grace had started as a secretary before working her way up to become the most important woman in the superstar’s life.
- Rwaramba had a short-lived romance with Jackson’s older brother Jermaine earlier.
- Grace was sacked by Jackson after becoming jealous of her closeness to the children.
- After Jackson’s death, Grace came back to Beverly Hills and helped comfort his children. She was expected to be among the chief mourners at the Jackson’s private family funeral.
- Jackson’s family members have never publicly confirmed any romantic relationship with Grace Rwaramba, and the veracity of the claims from unnamed sources has never been proven.
"These are the kinds of nutcases that surrounded MJ"
- Michael Jackson and his associates are discussed, including Dr. Arnold Klein, Conrad Murray, and several individuals who may have exploited Jackson’s kindness and naivety while he was alive.
- Dr. Arnold Klein is accused of over-treating Michael Jackson, leading to disastrous health consequences.
- A Reddit user deleted the book “83 Minutes” because they believe the Klein treatments were a significant reason for Jackson’s death.
- There is speculation that Jackson’s health deteriorated quickly in the three months leading up to his death, in part due to the treatments he received from Klein.
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A list of people who allegedly exploited Jackson’s kindness and naivety is provided; this list includes:
- Uri Gellar
- Rabbi Schmuley Boteach
- Janet Arvizo
- Gavin Arvizo
- StarArvizo
- Davlynn Arvizo
- Mark Lester
- Grace Rwaramba
- Ramone Bain
- The Cascios
- Louis Farrakhan
- Wade Robson
- Liz Taylor is excluded from the list of those who took advantage of Jackson but is criticized for requiring gifts in exchange for attending his performances.
- A Reddit user expresses surprise that the Cascios are included on a list of people who exploited Jackson, citing their contribution to the “Michael” album and Jackson’s friendship with the family.
- Another Reddit user claims they met the Cascios and found them to be different with Jackson than in reality.
- Frank Cascio is accused of betraying Jackson when he was indicted as a co-conspirator, and Jackson was reportedly devastated by his actions.
- Jackson reportedly told a friend, “Don’t trust Tyson (Frank)” in reference to Frank Cascio.
"Meet Grace Rwaramba, Michael Jackson’s nanny - The New Times"
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"A Letter From Grace Rwaramba - Lisa"
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"Grace Rwaramba: Michael Jackson's Nanny Returns Home - TIME"
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"Workplace Relationships: Your Stance and Stories"
- Reddit post about people’s stories and perspectives on workplace relationships in the service industry.
- Some people have dated, been married to, or still currently dating their coworkers.
- Some people have negative experiences with dating coworkers, such as making work uncomfortable or dealing with breakups while still working together.
- Others have positive experiences, such as having a supportive partner or someone to help with work when it gets busy.
- Some have rules against employee relationships, while others do not and are more lenient.
- Any relationships that occur should be handled professionally and not affect work.
- One person’s establishment had shot girls selling shots and a bartender and shot girl hooked up.
- One person met their spouse while working together at a Mexican restaurant.
- One person dated their boss and lived together for a year before breaking up and leaving the job.
- Some people went through numerous breakups with their coworker.
- One person stated it’s okay for workplace relationships to occur as long as people act professionally at work, not bring their relationship issues to work, and are “chill even when the other person isn’t.”
- A few people stated relationships can be amazing, but if they fail, it’s usually spectacular and can cause problems at work.
- One person’s boss wanted to hire their long-term boyfriend, but they refused, as they tend to take off the same days.
- One person believes that it’s best not to have a reputation for sleeping around at work.
- Another person met their significant other while working together and find it easier working together because they automatically have support.
- One person dated coworkers at different restaurants, but it did not work out, leading to quitting with less than 24 hours’ notice.
- One person doesn’t recommend workplace relationships as they have seen things get ugly more times than not.
- One person met their husband at work, despite it being against the rules to date each other.
- Karma scores of each Reddit post recommendation are included, ranging from 1 to 8.
"What are your experiences with workplace romances? Would it be inappropriate in your line of work to date a co-worker?"
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"Workplace fraternization and when you have to admit it."
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"How to Deal with Workplace Harassment When HR Does Nothing?"
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"Michael Jackson's former nanny defends him against new sex abuse ..."
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"Michael Jackson's Former Nanny Speaks out Against Claims in 'Leaving ..."
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"Michael Jackson: innocent or guilty?"
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"The problems with libertarianism."
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"Scam agencies"
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"The Power of Healthy Relationships at Work - Harvard Business Review"
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"Leaving Neverland is the most watched HBO documentary in history."
Relevant: True Importance: 2 Notes:
- Leaving Neverland is the most watched HBO documentary in history, according to a tweet that was posted by the film’s director, Dan Reed, which was deleted shortly after.
- The thread on the r/LeavingNeverlandHBO subreddit discusses the behavior of MJ fans who disagree with the documentary and their “cesspool” activity on Twitter.
- One Reddit user points out how many MJ fans “refuse to believe” that this documentary had high viewership and how they would refute it with mental gymnastics.
- The same user argues that attempting to redefine what a documentary is, is a really obnoxious way to redirect the conversation.
- The thread discusses the topic of people who believe that they were abducted by aliens and how some documentaries interview such people and the differences between such documentaries and Leaving Neverland.
- The thread also shares a tweet where journalists are harassed by MJ fans with “misinformation.”
"Michael Jackson's Former Nanny: He Tried To Protect His ... - RadarOnline"
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