You can tell me the name of two serial killers who were released early.

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• This webpage is a Reddit post from the subreddit r/serialkillers with the title “Should serial killers be rehabilitated?”
• The post contains a discussion on whether people who commit terrible crimes, like serial killers should be given a chance for rehabilitation or just simply be hanged.
• A majority of comments from Reddit users agree that rehabilitation for convicted serial killers is not possible, and they should continue to be locked up.
• Serial killers are usually psychopaths and there is no effective treatment for psychopathy.
• Edmund Kemper, a serial killer, has been leading a productive life in prison by recording audio books for the blind.
• Academic research shows that treatment for psychopaths increases the probability of reoffending.
• Brevik, who is mentioned in the post, is a mass murderer.
• Psychopathic serial killers have a neurological condition, which is the reason why they have violent, deviant, and sexual compulsions.
• Serial killers typically have no empathy and cannot be rehabilitated. Psychopathy is a neurological condition, and a psychopath’s brain has structural and functional differences compared to a normal brain.
• Serial killers feel driven to do terrible things and do not have the usual brakes in their brains like empathy to stop themselves from doing them.
• Serial killers should never be let out of prison and should remain permanent from society.
• Rehabilitation will never work for serial killers.
• Even if in theory a serial killer could be rehabilitated, they should always stay in prison for civil and social purposes.
• The commenter thinks that even if you could, in theory, name one serial killer who could be rehabilitated, he does not deserve it.
• Rehabilitating a serial killer is not possible without forcing people who did not volunteer to die or go through extreme distress when they were near someone they didn’t know was a serial killer.
• Prison is a means to keep social peace and providing a level of social stability.
• Even if there is some treatment for the pre-offenders or after a TBI, the serial killers should remain where they are.
• There is no specific mention of serial killers released early.

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-Relevant: True -Importance: 8 -Notes: -Henry Lee Lucas was a prolific serial killer responsible for the murders of at least three people in Texas and Michigan between 1960 and 1982. -He is famously known for confessing his part in hundreds of unsolved murders in the US and worldwide during a two-year-long spree in the early 1980s. -By the time his lies were exposed in April 1985, authorities had closed 220 murder cases based entirely on his confessions, making it one of the biggest hoaxes in US law enforcement history. -Though he was convicted of killing his own mother at the age of 23, he was released ten years later in 1970 but was back behind bars a year and a half later after he attempted to kidnap two schoolgirls in Adrian, Michigan. -He was later found guilty of murdering an elderly woman named Kate Rich in Texas and young Frieda Powell. -The Texas Rangers formed the Lucas Task Force to verify his claims, and he was eventually charged with 11 murders in total. -Many of Lucas’ confessions were alleged to have been motivated by a desire for attention, better treatment in prison, or even a burger and milkshake. -Ottis Toole, Frieda Powell’s uncle, was a convicted killer who often worked with Lucas on his murder spree. -Both Lucas and Toole were versatile killers with an eclectic range of kills, from home invasions and stranger abductions to drive-by shootings and intentional hit-and-runs. -They also claimed to be members of an underground Satanic cult called the Hands of Death that demanded ritual sacrifices. -After their exposure, investigators discovered that Lucas had been fed details about various cases, allowing him to form plausible-sounding confessions to the murders he hadn’t committed. -Many cases went uninvestigated even after revelations about their fraudulent confessions came to light. -The Lucas Report (1986) logs 319 murder cases associated with either Lucas or Toole, most of which are just names, dates, and locations. -Two-hundred and twenty-nine cases (91%) were cleared using Lucas’ confessions, with the real killer(s) never identified in 91% of them. -Notably, about 80 murders reportedly remain officially “solved” by a confession from Toole or Lucas, even in cases where records place them thousands of miles away on the day in question. -The Lucas Task Force cleared the most cases associated with Lucas or

• Major cases of serial killers in Canada:
  • Highway of Tears cases in British Columbia, many women missing since around 1970.
  • Robert Pickton aka The Pig Farmer, had killed sex workers in Vancouver.
  • Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka; a couple from Ontario.
  • Russell Williams, an air force colonel.
  • William Patrick Fyfe.
  • Gilbert Paul Jordan.
  • Wayne Boden.
  • Russell Johnson a.k.a The Bedroom Strangler.
  • The Danforth Shooting in 2018.
  • The Toronto Van Attack in 2018.
  • The murder of Holly Jones, a child murder and more local to Toronto/ON.
  • Murder of Cecilia Zhang, another child murder.
  • Murder of Corporal Nathan Cirillo.
  • Cameron Moffat and Kruse Wellwood, teenagers that murdered their classmate.
  • The Eight Day Bride, the mysterious death of Christina Kettlewell.
  • Peter Woodcock, Canada’s youngest serial killer, a child murderer.
  • The shooting of Colten Boushie, a tragedy and perhaps a hate crime.
  • Luka Magnotta, a famous case.
  • Swift Runner, a Cree man who murdered his family under the possession of a Wendigo.
• Some personal anecdotes:
  • My ex’s mum’s cousin is strongly suspected of starting his killing spree in his teens and it is probably more than 20.
  • Russell Williams and Paul Bernardo knew each other very well.
  • A man, named Gary Leon, was present at the pig farm of Robert Pickton; there is no evidence that Robert Pickton and Gary Ridgway had any connection whatsoever, though they were known for victimizing similar victim types.
  • William Patrick Fyfe, Gilbert Paul Jordan, and Wayne Boden are other serial killers in Canada.
  • The Babes in the Woods have been identified in Feb 2022.
• Some podcast recommendations and other links:
  • Dark Poutine is a fantastic podcast that covers (almost) exclusively Canadian serial killers and other morbid stuff.
  • Canadian True Crime is another podcast, which does provide a very detailed account of cases.
  • A link to a Reddit thread from which the webpage was sourced.

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Notes:

• A study shows that better prisons reduce recidivism.
  • prisoners assigned to newer, less crowded, and higher service prisons had a 36% lower probability of returning to prison within one year.
• The argument that better job training and services to prisoners is wrong unless all citizens can get that for free.
• The United States doesn’t want to reduce inmates. It’s cheap labor, too profitable.
• Norway focuses on reducing the number of inmates by offering job training and rehabilitation programs.
  • By treating 100 prisoners well, only 100 prisoners instead of 200 badly treated prisoners is cheaper and crimes committed reduced by half.
• Crime and criminals is an extremely complex subject and should be approached with a truly scientific method.
• There are already work-release programs so it’s hard to believe that someone couldn’t find something for them to do.
• Offers of work exchange programs are recommended for prisoners to gain job training for outside skills.
• Massachusetts attorney said 85% of the inmates in prisons should qualify for housing from the Department of Mental Health.
• Treatment programs and GEDS are required in Minnesota prisons as job skill building exercises.
  • College courses, woodworking/cabinetry, and heavy machinery operation are offered in furthering education courses.
• There is literature supporting the idea that an upfront investment in reentry services yields a lower cost to the taxpayers in the long run.
  • Rehabilitation and job training services need to be implemented before release.
• Ex-convicts are often prevented from gaining employment even with job skills.
  • Changing peoples prejudices are needed to be able to offer ex-convicts job opportunities.
• Two comments that mention serial killers:
  • None refer to their release.
  • The comments are:
    • “There are penalties, but these guys aren’t afraid to die. Look at the guy on the speedway in California a few years ago. I don’t know about serial killers, but they’ve argued for the death penalty and some have gotten it.”
    • “I would give him the death penalty. Serial Killers never deserve to live.”

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• There are six main reasons to punish people: retribution, deterrence, incapacitation, expression, rehabilitation, and restitution. These reasons often conflict with each other in crafting the appropriate punishment.
• Retribution: aims to give the person the punishment they deserve for the crime. It operates on the principle of “an eye for an eye,” with just punishment commensurate with the severity of the crime committed.
• Deterrence: aims to prevent future crimes by making punishment for certain crimes sufficiently severe. There are two forms: general and specific. General deterrence involves punishing a criminal so as to prevent others from committing the same crime. Specific deterrence, on the other hand, tries to reduce the likelihood of recidivism by punishing criminals more severely so they will not repeat their offenses.
• Incapacitation: aims to keep offenders away from society to prevent them from committing crimes.
• Expression: aims to express disapproval as a society toward certain behaviors such as suicide, cannibalism, and vagrancy.
• Rehabilitation: aims to help offenders make changes to reduce the likelihood of recidivism.
• Restitution: aims to make victims whole again by requiring offenders to restore the damage they caused.
• Rehabilitation is sometimes not useful, as some crimes may be committed due to social systems, poverty, or lack of education.
• In addition, some crimes such as murder, rape, or arson may never be fully atoned for through rehabilitation alone.
• However, it can be argued that rehabilitation and reintegration into society should be prioritized to help individuals better their lives.
• Some suggested proposals include:
  • Implementing a maximum prison sentence cap of around 20 to 30 years. For crimes such as murder and rape, would you agree with this limitation?
  • Holding violent criminals in facilities like the infamously “humane” prisons in Norway.
  • Trying to find ways to provide mental illness treatment in a prison setting as a way to reduce the likelihood of violent outbursts.
  • Limiting the use of solitary confinement and other activities deemed harmful to the mental health of prisoners.
• Comments:
  • One user believes that capital punishment is appropriate for murders, rape, and child molestation, as research shows that the brains of pedophiles are not wired properly and their recidivism rates are sky-high. They argue that eliminating such criminals is the best moral decision to prevent such crimes from occurring.
  • However, another user writes that, under the current system, conv

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URL: https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueCrime/comments/j95e5l/should_bad_people_or_serial_killers_be/

• The discussion post is titled “Should bad people or serial killers be rehabilitated?”
• A user suggests that some types of criminals cannot be rehabilitated. (23 karma)
• Another user believes in rehabilitation but only for those who commit a one time offense. (18 karma)
• A user suggests that there should be more focus on prevention through better mental healthcare, early childhood care to stop abuse cycles, and more social services. (15 karma)
• A user explains that the US leans harder towards capital punishment because of the country’s justice system and laws rooted in Christian ideology. (14 karma)
• Another user believes that child offenders have the capability to be rehabilitated. They give examples of Mary Bell and Robert Thompson and John Venables. (9 karma)
• A user comments that people who can commit horrific crimes have been affected by social factors and should not necessarily be fully held accountable. (4 karma)
• A user suggests that some people may be useful tools for chaos and that deviants have the potential to support the politics of foreign entities. (2 karma)
• A user suggests that Anders Brevik, a terrorist and mass murderer who killed and injured almost 400 people, is beyond rehabilitation. (2 karma)
• Another user suggests that perhaps murderers should spend the rest of their lives in prison, without the possibility of being released. (2 karma)
• A user has no idea what rehabilitation really means and believes it is a politician’s word. (1 karma)
• The general consensus of the discussion seems to be split on whether rehabilitation is possible for all criminals, with some believing in it for one time offenders while others disagree and believe that some criminals are unable to be rehabilitated.

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• According to the Radford University/FGCU Serial Killer database, since the 1900s the world has seen 3,112 known serial killers with 2,320 or approximately 75 percent occurring in the United States
• Reddit user comments suggest that third world countries have unreported serial killers, but the webpage does not provide any data to confirm this assertion.
• The discussion touches on the possible influence of gun laws and individualistic cultures on the high number of school shootings and spree killings in the United States, but there is no direct correlation with regard to serial killers.
• One comment mentions that serial killings are declining while mass shootings are on the rise.
• Several comments discuss the differences between serial killers and mass shooters, including the characteristics, motivations, and categorization of these two groups of killers.

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The reasons why serial killers are sometimes released earlier than their initial sentence prescribed, and risks associated with early release.

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The names and brief biographical information of two serial killers who were released early from prison, and the crimes they committed after release.